sink or swim. well, i don t i don t swim very well, but i swam. i tread a lot of water. it s been operating in this tiny basement since it was started by lorraine s husband, max gordon, 75 years ago. he opened this club in 1935. it was not a jazz club then. it was the same room, but it did not jazz. it was poetry readings. i at buoyed the village vanguard success by and large to max gordon who ran this club for many, many decades and had a great horse sense about him. this was max s office. there s a picture of max sitting right here in this spot. this is the same terrible ugly desk. i dare not get rid of it. my father max sat down very strong roots. these days debra gordon helps her mother run the club her father created. what is, that another message? yeah, it just came. what s the secret to the