now we re going to add in the faces of the iraq and afghanistan veterans to try and give them a more immediate memorial until it s commemorated in some appropriate way, a te decade or more from now. we re well on our way. colin powell has been a huge help in bringing legitimacy and fund-raising. and senator chuck hagan and general price who was involved from the start. we think it s moving in the right direction. the government of australia has given us significant amounts of money. we re very grateful. it looks as if this november will be the groundbreaking and we ll get it done in the following two years. all right. retired generals barry mccaffrey and obviously wesley clark. gentlemen, you re going to stay with us. we re waiting not just for the president but also going to be hearing from the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, from the defense secretary there at the vietnam veterans memorial today marking the 50th anniversary of the start of the war. we will be back with more