out about this in 2008. nobody heard you. you had been told you, don t talk about that who is giving you that directive? no one specifically. in the black community, you just always kind of knew it was like an unspoken code that you don t really tell on each other. you stick together. you ve met r. kelly you said when you were 17-years-old. yes. and there was a video shoot a music video shoot in atlanta. you describe in the documentary, there was grooming early on, explain that, if you would? he pretty much right away tells you what he s in, what he likes, what he doesn t like. he also during sexual acts the whole time he s telling you exactly what to dwloorks not to do. what he likes, what he doesn t like. yeah. it was interesting at that time you said i didn t assume he
let s talk about your story. you met r. kelly, you say, when you were 17 years old. yes. and this was a video shoot. yes. music video shoot here in atlanta. uh-huh. and from what you describe in the documentary there was grooming early on. explain that, if you would. he pretty much right away told you what he s into, what he likes, what he doesn t like. he also during sexual acts, the whole time, he s telling you what to do, whatnot to do, what he likes, what he doesn t like. it s interesting, you said i didn t assume he liked younger girls at that moment, i thought he just liked me. yes. at what point did you realize something was very off here? it wasn t just one time. it would be recurring things where i was getting older. you know, i m 19, girls are
they re not anti-trump, they re not anti-gay, they re not racists. they said in a joint statement we are not racists, we are not homophobic. we are not anti-trump. we re born and raised in chicago and are american citizens. from what i was told today, they are cooperating with the police department. so you think about this, those partial phone records that jussie smollett gave over to police, of course they wanted more but these two men turned over their phones, they re giving the background to this information. now his attorneys fought back over the weekend on saturday releasing a statement that read something about the fact that he was going to pay these men to be his personal trainer to get ready for a video shoot but all of this is falling apart at this point. police of course wanting to talk to jussie smollett to figure this out. one other thing, in this area of chicago there s so in surveillance cameras in the area. it was interesting from the
over their phones, they re giving the background to this information. now his attorneys fought back over the weekend on saturday releasing a statement that read something about the fact that he was going to pay these men to be his personal trainer to get ready for a video shoot but all of this is falling apart at this point. police of course wanting to talk to jussie smollett to figure this out. one other thing, in this area of chicago there s so in surveillance cameras in the area. it was interesting from the first days to realize this attack was not caught on video. so you start breaking the pieces down from there and you think about detectives with that image being able to go this far to get the two men not only to come in but then to turn evidence on mr. smollett. thank you. with me now criminal defense attorney. also host of the fifth column pod cast. mark, i don t know where to begin. if this turns out it s a hoax, something like this, it hurts
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