custody at lake forest, illinois, after a brief pursuit earlier. police also recovering a high powered rifle, who say believed to be the weapon he was at the shooting. that is the car that police say crimo was driving. you can see it here on this live picture. this all started approximately, at 10:14 am, central time. the shooter opened fire on the town separate from a rooftop, along that route. and again, police say six people have been killed, and health officials reported that at least two dozen, if not three dozen, were hurt. 25, with gunshot wounds, in that total. let s go straight to shaquille brewster, and as an msnbc correspondent there on the ground for us. and shaq, just the breaking news within the last 15 minutes that they have apprehended that person of interest. what else are we hearing? well, we are likely not gonna have any more updates from local law enforcement until tomorrow. but you are just in the past couple of minutes there, we had that major update,
and one individual decided to cry to a rooftop with a high capacity, high caliber, high powered rifle and fired off dozens of shots, as many as 60. and tonight, six families are broken with the loss of a loved one. 24 families are at the hospital praying for the recovery of those dear to them. congressman brad schneider from highland park, thank you sir. our hearts are with you, as well as with all the great and amazing first responders that helped in today s situation. thank you so much. thank, you we appreciate, it and we are grateful for the heroes and first responders. joining us now, via phone, msnbc news correspondent tom winter has been following all the developments in this case. tom, what are you hearing right now? short, richard, this person who is in custody, robert e. crimo iii. ellis s bobby, or instead of timber 20th 2000.
was right, he s totally, right as we always is he such a great reporter. these guys have an online community, but they live in that. it s not a real community, so a guy can be a loner yet supported by these digital friends. so when we, say he is a loner. he s alone physically, he probably doesn t even have any friends. he s a marginalized person,, living in a basement posting pictures of his rifle in his helmet, i m crazy stuff like this, cartoons of shooting people. and he has a digital family of other people who glorify mass murder, and want to look at columbine. and want to look at liu harvey oswald. it can exist together, this evil digital group. but you re really a living human being going down the street by yourself, you have no friends, you don t need anybody, you re sort of by yourself.
referencing the death of lee harvey oswald, who assassinated john f. kennedy with a rifle from an elevated position. i would point, out and they didn t point out here, that he left the rightful there. and oswald s prints were all over that rifle. so, this guy is fantasizing over this kind of a murder, with this on his wall, about that kind of a series of events, and he is the guy in police custody. it s just a picture into the mind of a killer. if he turns out to be the killer, he could still be eliminated as the chief knows, a lot of times we ve had people come in on him on many of these big cases. i ve had them come in and confess that they made the bomb and killed the guy, and of course we have to prove they didn t do it. i don t think the last door has closed here. but they certainly feel strongly that he is somebody that they might be able to link to this. they re trying to do that and eliminate him. i think the next thing we will hear, if he turns out to be the
model number, ammunition. typically, that s a euphemism for an ar-15 style rifle, but we just need to get some more clarification on that. and obviously, a big component of this is was that weapon purchased legally? but, if anything, is in his past? from a colonel perspective, was there anything that would have disqualified him from having that got on his person prior to the shooting. not a lot of anything i just said is going to do a lot of good for the victims and the people that were impacted by this today. but those are the types of questions, richard, that we still have at this point. tom, practically, help us out. the difference between perseverance versus suspects, and with that might mean for the process the law enforcement is going through? great, question it means different things to different communities. in new york city, for instance, if somebody is a person of interest, up to the moment they ve been charged. there s some technical parts of