dictatorship. each of us represent an equal amount of people. and we need to have an equal input on issues. i think it s actually beneficial for democrats to reform this institution. i m note worried about it as much. honestly, i don t mind. we can put all the names and let god decide and just pick a person. it s not about the person, it s about this institution and to start governing. and i think that is better right. let me interrupt for one second. i apologize, congresswoman, but the clerk just gavelled down and the vote is over. and the yeas have it. there will be the motion to adjourn will pass by 219 to 213. so the house will adjourn until tomorrow at noon. let s listen. in. 219. the nays are 213. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned until noon tomorrow. all right. i apologize, congresswoman. i just wanted to bring that news
congresswoman, i appreciate you joining us. are you happy? do you think progress can be made overnight into tomorrow? i think the fact that we got 219 votes to adjourn. i know that seems like a farcical thing, but that s a small victory. and yes, i think that we re going to continue this process. but people are seeing the process that typically occurs behind closed doors, and what people used to laughingly refer to and derisively referred to as smoke-filled back rooms, this is happening out in the public s eye. this is part of that process. it s part of the process of the house and they re seeing it happen in live now. and we re going to continue to work threw the process until we have a speaker. and yet there are deals being made with members, withholdouts. are you you feel like you know all the deals that are being made, what has been given away? and are you concerned about what more may need to be given away by speaker mr. mccarthy?
deliberate and address issues and concerns before any changes are made. so i don t worry about that. and addressing legitimate concerns like that, we re going to have to hear how it s going to be addressed. but i don t worry about that right now. i just want to make sure that we re talking to each other and we are having the discussions. because it s important as part of resolutions. it s important for us to talk to each other. a lot of people have different opinions. but only the people in the room really know what s happening. and until they come to a consensus and everyone else see what s happening, it s going to be a transparent process. no one will force the rules on anyone. we have to address it as a group of people. one last question before you go, congresswoman, because you have a unique perspective as the only ukrainian born member of congress. i ve heard some of your republican colleagues to me and to others talking about how this chaotic process is helping authoritarians m
kevin mccarthy allies, and maybe some people who are not strong allies, but people who have been voting for them. and i call it concession regret, which is something the congresswoman just told you, jake, she doesn t know what s being promised away in that room. and there is real concern. we have seen historic dysfunction, at least in the modern era. and there is real concern that the promises that kevin is making to try to get in enough votes to get it down to 4 are going to lead to a disaster down the road. a frank question. because you re a former health correspondent, as am i, as are you. what do you think the odds are that i know more about the discharge petition situation about what this next congress is going to look like than more than a element of these republican and house members? i don t think a lot of these
finally get there, anderson. manu raju, appreciate it. let s go back to jake. joining us now indiana republican congresswoman victoria sparks who has been voting present for the last two days. she did so again tonight. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us. you voted for kevin mccarthy in the first three votes, but then for the last eight you voted present. you told me that you were voting present yesterday because you wanted to see negotiations happen. and you were trying to take a step back and give the rebels and the mccarthy forces time to negotiate. it sounds like the mccarthy people have been making offer and offer and mccarthy has been acquiescing on issue after issue. why are you still voting present? well, i think it s important for us to have this conversation, because i think we do have a responsibility to