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The Grayzone intercepted Volodymyr Zelensky's Ukrainian diaspora delegation outside the US Capitol and encountered Natalie Jaresko, the corporate operative who helped guide Wall Street's pillaging from Kiev to Puerto Rico. Jaresko indignantly.
strike and takes over kyiv. the second problem he has, if this results, as many analysts have said, in massive casualties on both sides, what do the russian people think of that when the body bags start coming home, not to mention the ukrainian people, and the tragedy of war, that right now is not being addressed until people start dying. that could undermine putin more than any success he has. and the third point is if putin goes in, what happens afterwards? it s one thing to take kyiv and possibly even change the government. but does he plan to fight an insurgency? does he want to lead? he doesn t have a force large enough to occupy the entirety of ukraine. this has been a problem since 2004 when russian intelligence attempted to assassination victor yuschenko, who became the president of ukraine. and they ve been trying for 17 years to make ukraine a puppet state of russia. and they haven t succeeded. so i think putin understands this to some extent.
putin these days. martha: very interesting from viktor yushchenko, the former president was of ukraine. right now armed police guarding the palace in istanbul. this is an image of the room where talks took place with russia. jeff paul is live with more. hi, jeff. the russian delegation claims that they will be withdrawing troops from kyiv as a way to increase and establish trust. whether this promise is kept and russian troops are withdrawn from those areas, only time will tell. the developments happening in turkey between negotiators from russia and ukraine that met for the first time in nearly three weeks. this all happening on the heels of these developments that have been going on throughout the region. really what is telling about these developments is just exactly what will happen next.
been killed here. god bless the ukrainians. salute them. martha: think about zelensky who was holed up in this underground bunker. making appearances every day. thanks, pete. you heard john kirby saying that russia is repositioning. i spoke with victor yuschenko. here s what was asked on what both sides are demanding and willing to give up. i think we have different tasks putin was talking about fixed conditions that ukraine has to fulfill.