this movement when you had occupy wall street, and there was core elements of the tea party in occupy frankly agreed. oh, sure. because of the fear of big, whether it s big government or big power on wall street. right. and i think most americans don t love the tea party, and most americans don t like occupy wall street either. i want to take issue on one thing you said. i thought the president s state of the union speech was anything but possibpulist. i think the president has moved towards the center you think he s a center-left guy? i do. look, things that work in massachusetts and new york don t necessarily work electorally or economically in the rest of the country. the problem with populism is it is pessimistic, it s us versus them. it puts the middle class into a victim state. and the solutions, in our view, are too puny to really help the middle class. there are huge structural changes going on in the economy.