26efth. 17 . Yes. What do you come to mean by yes, sir. They got. Security assistan, three e amigos. As well. They cudid. If i said that number was my understanding of ambassador sondlands use of around 270 million. That term thed three people in would that probably be accurate . Charge of ukraine policy during the summer was he, gordon sound about right . Sondland and ambassador volker did they get aid in fy 18 . And secretary perry. When did you come to learn yes, sir. Including security about mr. T giulianis role and assistance . Including security what do you consider his role to assistance. We already talked about the have been . Er i first heard about former javelins and antitank missiles mayor jewgiulianis interest in that they were not able to purchase in previous ukraine in january of this year. Administrations. Have they gotten Security Assistance in fy 19 . Yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million or that was a different phase than what happened during the so that were discussing
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really talk about president trump in a kind of a full setting. i think that is what you re seeing replicated here. he perhaps has provided some information to jack smith, some reporting that he sat down for interviews there. but he clearly has not fully opened himself up to the government because with fani willis, he s clearly not cooperating. you know what s fascinating, right, those texts, we re talking about the text messages to like fox anchors, ginni thomas, clarence thomas wife. that was a lot of the text messages we were reading on msnbc. those came from him. he was giving stuff up, but it does seem like he was kicking and screaming and crying executive privilege when it came to talking to you all. but there are some things he gave up very clearly. we now know because of him and the first draft of his book that donald trump allegedly left,ia know, the iran war plans like on a couch at bedminster. we now know there was no standing order to declassify any
seems so unwieldy, so sprawly. for the layman, lay person, how does fani willis get this done? ia know when fani willis indicted another case, the atlanta educator s case, a cheating scam on grading exams, she actually indicted 35 defendants. by the time she got to trial there were only 12 of them left, and that s this sort of winnowing procedure you re hinting at, alex, where some of these folks will decides to plead guilty maybe without a deal. others may want a deal and they may plead and cooperate and strengthen her case, but it s likely by the time willis goes to trial she ll no longer have all 19 of these defendants on her hands. rico cases, any big conspiracy case is messy. you ve got 10 defendants, you ve got 10 people making opening statements and cross examining witnesses and jumping up and saying, your honor, i object. so it is a little bit different than the normal trial, but it s
just down the street from here. this is the proper venue for it, and this judge i think will be able to find jurors they say are going to be fair. they re going to know about the defense, but the question is have they made up their mind, have they concluded about the guilt? and amazing enough there are people not immersed in this stuff the same way viewers are, cnn, msnbc, and fox news are who are just they haven t lived this every day and they don t read about it every day and they haven t concluded it. ia know, i talked to bill barr last night, trump s former attorney general. we talk about the first amendment and trump was exercising his right to free speech, and the other was he was relying on advice of counsel. this is what bill barr thought of that. i don t think his defense of advice of counsel is going to go forward because i think the president would have to get on the stand and subject himself to
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