agree with that at all. not at all. congressman mike cheryl is a democrat of new jersey. she s voting in favor of the debt ceiling bill and she joins me now. congresswoman, i guess i will ask you the question that steve doocy asked andy biggs, republican colleague. did republicans or democrats get more out of this deal, in your estimation? well, this was mccarthy s deal. we showed the american public what our vision of the future looked like. things like investing in reassuring american manufacturing, investing in our crumbling infrastructure, a real vision for the future economy and competition with china, which we ve already seen some of those investments paying off with true, you know, private investment, $88 million in ev manufacturing, 210 billion dollars in chips manufacturing. that was our vision of the future that we put in place in the last congress. and we saw what republicans wanted. we saw cuts to a head start programs, cuts to veterans
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and, you know, i would say on the debt limit, you know, you have kevin mccarthy, who has not told anyone, or some people may know but we certainly don t know, the public doesn t know what he promised to the extreme wing of his party as rlates to the debt limit. we know he promised cuts. devil s in the details especially dealing with the crazy train. what we re talking about with the debt limit is potentially major cuts to domestic programs. that means medicaid, medicare, social security, veterans programs, housing. they have to pick among these, if they are going to make these cuts. so when you see kevin mccarthy, i think yesterday, basically presented as he s the sane actor it s important to remember the devil s in the details here and the right wing of his party is pressuring him to make massive cuts that will hurt the public. and when you look at all of this as a whole, this is why george santos makes sense, by the way.