border and stop drugs coming across the border, versus a party where the, you know, deputy chair wears an open border t-shirt, that sets it up for the president. mike, who s arguing, yeah, we want more fentanyl coming across the border? you re saying this is a debate, a policy discussion. the president is lying about building his wall, being already built, he s lying about hordes carrying diseases. i don t think he has to go that far. i think that s too far. i think if you look at polls, look specifically women in the suburbs, a critical voting bloc for reps heading into 2020, they want border security. that president is well served to stick to that. when the democrats say we shouldn t shut the government down over a disagreement, they re saying we don t want to
she went toe-to-toe with the president and won. i think it will strengthen her case to be the speaker. david axelrod, what did you think of this in the oval office. part of what was so fascinating is you had congressional leaders sitting there basically telling the president to his face that he was lying. yeah. well, they obviously were going to send a message. i agree with david, i think nothing rallies a caucus more that the leader of their party going up to the white house, really a president of either party, if there s a controversial issue, and taking their side and being tough about it. so i think she did profit from that. but let s be clear. donald trump knew what he was doing. i think he called the reporters in for a reason. he likes that he likes that storyline that he s willing to stand up to the liberals who are standing in the way of a border wall, and that he s willing to
leadership told all of their candidates don t talk about impeachment because it s a bridge too far based on what we have seen. the base of their party gets so angry at the president, and you see adam schiff sort of stirring up the hornet s nest, they will go too far. i worked for newt gingrich in the 90s. i have seen this movie before. the party will be driven by the base to go too far and overplay their hand. i think that s what will happen. kiersten, when you hear the president say there possibly could be a revolt, do you think there s too much being made of that? i think he s right, but i don t think it s even something on the table. republicans just have these talking points, and they just say these things like they re facts, and they re just not true. it s just not true, no matter how many times a republican comes on cnn and says that
i think the democratic letter spent ought of 2018 saying don t talk about impeachment, because it s a bridge too far based on what we have seen. the base of their party gets so angry at the president, and you see adam schiff sort of stirring up the hornet s nest, they will go too far. i worked for newt gingrich in the 90s. i have seen this movie before. the party will be driven by the base to go too far and overplay their hand. i think that s what will happen. kiersten, when you hear the president say there possibly could be a revolt, do you think there s too much being made of that? i think his s right, but i don t think it s even something on the table. republicans just have these talking points, and they just say these things like they re
when the president is right, talking about the shutdown, if he s selling this as a shutdown for border security, he will win on that every time? first of all, there s so many things we discuss about the president every night. we rarely actually have a policy debate. here s a policy debate. actually right in the oval office with the leaders of the country debating each other i thought was an amazing thing to watch. wasn t it for just cameras? that s not a real debate. not like a proper debate, but i m saying the american people don t always get to see the leaders of opposites parties interacting with each other and fighting. they take shots at each other and tweet against each other. they re actually having a policy conversation. the policy conversation is funding for border security. republicans believe this is a winning issue for us, even in the suburbs. when you talk about this in terms of should we protect the border and stop drugs coming across the border, versus a party wh