has been turned into a make-shift morgue. that s what the word says spray painted on the outside. bodies are kept there until they can be buried. million of ukrainians are fleeing for their lives as russia s attack rages on for the fourth week so far more than 3.2 million people have fled to neighboring countries. the agency says, around 13 million have been affected in the hardest hit areas of ukraine within the country. ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, is now calling for peace talks to begin in ernest with moscow. zelenskyy said, quote, it is time to restore territorial integrity and justice for ukraine. otherwise russia s losses will be so huge that several generations will not be enough to rebound, end quote. joining me is molly hunter. overnight there were more reports of explosions in your
shift to an aggressive posture? i heard from richard engel, our chief foreign correspondent, that is starting to happen. there s some offensive attacks by the ukrainians. sorry, the internet is pretty bad now in different parts of ukraine. i would say that the territorial defense unit has proven to be extremely competent. something that we didn t expect, and ukrainian cities right now are very well prepared by those units that are not part of the regular army. we know that russia is trying to encircle kyiv, is trying to
generals who have actually been killed in the fighting which is pretty unusual to have so many high-level generals die in the midst of fighting on the ground. that means they re close enough to the conflict to be subject to counterattacks from the ukrainians and that means there s a chance that they could be taken hostage, and that they could be arrested, and if that was the case they would become prisoners of war and they could be tried for their participation in the war crimes that they whatever war crimes that they themselves are responsible for. so that seems the most likely way forward. it s also possible what about the go ahead. sorry, go ahead. i was going to say it s also possible that even though putin and some of his other henchmen are going to be brought into the docket of the international criminal court they could be indicted in absentia.
war-torn ukraine. the latest estimate is more than 2 million ukrainians have crossed the border into poland and by far the most of any neighboring country. romania has moved into the second place for refugees. 508,000 there. moldova is next. close to 360,000 and hungary, where i am, has taken in 300,000, but this crisis as you have seen from the images has been especially tough on children. unicef estimates that more than 1.5 million children have fled ukraine since russia s invasion has begun last month. it has created a child refugee almost every second since february 24th. joining me is dr. irwin redletter, founding director for the disaster preparedness at columbia university and msnbc and the founder of the children s health fund. he s got more than three decades
it seemed like something people can do to be useful but it wasn t going to hold back the russian army. kind of amazing, it s actually holding back the russian army. exactly, ali. thanks for having me back. i put out some information over my twitter for people, it s amazing you see it happening, you see buses parked in the streets, many layers of barriers. that s the nature of close urban combat where conventional, the defender has all the advantage, it can hold back, i m serious, the best army in the world and russia is not the best. how much of that is the technique and how much of that is that these russian soldiers are arguably less motivated, perhaps less informed about what their mission is in unfamiliar territory, versus ukrainians, some who are not well trained