and we are back. me something i don t know. the dnc chair race is shaping up. unfortunately it really is being set up as a proxy battle between labor secretary tom perez and keith ellison. there are other great people. for clinton or president obama versus sanders. keith ellison tried to take himself out of that box. i believe it was this morning. tweeting a story about how people have to stop passing on right wing memes about hillary clinton being corrupt or losing the election because she was corrupt. he was completely attacked by a lot of former supporters on twitter. a lot of support, but he got a lot of negativity. he existed before bernie sanders. hello. there are four or five great people in the race.
know. the dnc chair race is shaping up. elise hope decided not to run this week and unfortunately it really is being set up as a proxy battle between labor secretary tom perez and congressman keith ellison, which i think is unfortunate because i think they re great people. like a proxy for bernie versus president obama versus sanders. and keith ellison stepped out to try to take himself out of that box, i believe it was this morning, tweeting a story about how people have to stop passing on right wing memes about hillary clinton being corrupt or losing the election because she was corrupt. and he was completely attacked by a lot of people, a lot of former supporters on twitter. he got a lot of support but he also got a lot of negativity. he s his own person. he existed before bernie sanders. there are four or five great people in the race. it should be interesting. should be very interesting. matt. over 1,000 babies were born this year in refugee camps in
who wants to put resources and bodies and grassroots activities in all 50 states. i think that is what they really need to look at is who is willing to do that, not as much as ideology. do you, given how fractured the dnc became this year over clinton supporters versus sanders supporters, how do you see this shaking out. who is the candidate on that graphic who you think brings the party together? i certainly it was about the personalities, there were common areas in terms of economic policy, that can be overcome. but i think it is the case that organization is the name of the game here. the democrats are looking at how republicans have done incredibly well since 2010 at the state level, winning state legislatures, winning governors
get the momentum, and i think he can beat her if he does that. if he doesn t win iowa, it s slim, at best. you still consider her a formidable obstacle? i think that bernie sanders will win. that s the bottom line. clinton is she has a lot of history. she s established in the field of politics and, but i think people are starting to question her more, and her chances against trump versus sanders chances against trump are not that great. so i think we have to closely evaluate the situation more before we say anything. i don t think she is a formidable candidate. i think that she s just a house candidate. so he s going to win? well, you know, the house is really powerful. you know what i mean? don t bet against the house? right. of course hillary is formidable. of course she s formidable. if bernie were not in the race, we would consider hillary.
there may be differences there. but otherwise, i don t see that sort of driving the debate tonight. i think you will see hillary who has been under attack for five months on e-mails and server. this is her first chance to make her case really be on her message and get that message out. i think that is what she will do instead of playing differences versus sanders. who has the highest stakes here? well, i think all of them do. i think bernie sanders has cornered the market on white progressives and hasn t been able to get one foot in any other camp in the party whether it is a blue coller lunch bucket democrats or african-americans or non-whites. he has to reach out tonight or he is going to get stuck where he is. martin o malley is someone who has the talent to have a carson