for a long time. i don t think it will be worse than last year in that sense. john, we love our trucks and shirts and shoes we ll keep on spending? we ll spend on certain thingings. americans have shown if something comes out they will buy it. a new nike sneakers and ipad, americans are going to buy it it is like vegas travel. you go to vegas and when you are worried about your job. you don t go tentious vens and parties, consumer sentiment is the lowest it has been since jimmy carter. it is christmas and they will buy something but not as much. johnathon. looking at the tradig of lay offs. a lot of times they do it before the end of the year because of budgets and all of that. and maybe this will be the same retail season they had last year. the tradition of lay offs.