became real and other things became real as well. mark: now as for kim jong-un, do we know much about him? you fellas sit on this very, very important committee. do members of congress know much about him? north korea is the toughest country on the globe to collect intel on. kim jong-un is one that, as i mentioned, he has proven to be homicidal but he wants to stay in power, wants to stay alive, that certainly is something that i think is important to leverage in understanding that we can achieve our results by utilizing that and letting him know that maybe taking on his regime is a possibility if he doesn t, not only stop the bad behavior, but also engage in the denuclearization to the next level. i think as far as the country goes, what s very different than iran, iran you have millions of iranians that will overtake the streets and overthrow the ve.rnment north korea, they don t believe their problems are because of