her lower skull. there were other rooms to. oddly enough, you can hear gunshots going off during the fire in that cell phone video shot by a passer by. [noise] it had to be, agent monty, when the fire exploded the remaining bullets of the gun sending the bullets into vashti s body. something else didn t burn up completely. we noticed a red plastic container, very close to car back on the mattress itself. plastic container, for what? it was a gas can. clearly a gas? can yes. so, what did that tell you? our job that day was to determine the origin cause of the fire in declassify, whether it was accidental, whether we couldn t to terminate a cause or someone intentionally said the fire. that would make a suggestion, if there s a gas can on the bed. yes, that would be an
second floor and went upstairs. there were small flames around the door, the flames were about this high. and then he said he ran into the master bedroom. the bed was on fire and the whole room could ve been on fire, i m pretty sure it was. but i was just looking right there. and vashti was laying on her back, right in the spot where she sleeps. he said he reached over her right shoulder and around her neck, i pulled her up, and she sank down, just waffled in my arms down straight. then all of a sudden, it sort of came to me dead, fire, kids.
even as they grieved, kathleen and rich had become suspicious of brett. ever since brett called kathleen to tell her the news and freeze day in such an odd week. he said, vashti killed herself and then set the house on fire. so, how it was said to us was backwards kim. i just from conversations her and i had had, i knew. i just knew. what did he sound like? no emotion. very calm. no tears, no hysterics. but just very matter-of-fact. i am hysterical. i m not married to her and she s not the mother of my children and i m hysterical. but he wasn t. week or so later, brett drove down to oklahoma to speak directly with kathleen and her husband. and he had answers for everything. like, why she did what she did. why she thought she what she thought. it was like a script.
she couldn t leave them. they needed her. the prosecutors showed the jury a photo of the contents of vashti s purse, which contained that post-it note listing various costs, including funeral expenses. vashti seacat, as all of her friends and family testified, was a very organized person, as both a mother and in her career at work. and that list is simply somebody planning out what they might do in their future when they re going to get divorced, which we know vashti seacat was doing. prosecutors also showed jurors the powerpoint papers found on the dining room table, the presentation about homicide, suicides, and fire. true, brett was a law enforcement trainer, said the prosecutor, but those were not his subjects. he was not teaching arson.
tried to destroy. now, this guy is such a super criminal that, where does he go to destroy that? he goes to the kansas law enforcement training center, which is full of what? former cops. and he gets somebody to help him destroy those things. now, if you wanted to destroy those things, there are innumerable farm ponds. if you wanted to get rid of that, you throw it into a farm pond and nobody will ever find it. in fact, the state s whole investigation, said the defense, was at beast incompetent, maybe worse. brett and attorney wachtel claimed that vashti s car disappeared from the crime scene for three days, even though the whole seacat yard was supposed to have been sealed off, a crime scene. they showed the jury a series of photos taken from different vantage points, which the defense argued made it look like the car had been moved in the days after the fire. this neighbor lived right across the street from the seacat driveway. when you first observed the driveway, was the volksw