fixer, michael cohen, says donald trump has a history of using racist language in conversations. our political correspondent, mj lee, is joining us now. mj, has michael cohen now become president trump s at least one of president trump s biggest critics? sure seems that way, wolf. michael cohen is unleashing on donald trump in this new vanity fair interview, and he says that in the years that he worked for donald trump, he witnessed firsthand in multiple conversations donald trump using racist and chilling language. three examples that i want to point to from this vanity fair interview. in 2016, michael cohen says the two men were discussing a trump rally, and michael cohen noted that most members of the audience were white. and he says, i told trump that the rally looked vanilla on television. and trump responded, that s because black people are too stupid to vote for me. a second example.
he is speaking out about the kind of language he says, he says trump has used in private. cohen now has an interest in bringing down trump. i want to emphasize that. he says that in light of the president s recent rhetoric, quote, he wanted to offer potential voters what he believed was evidence of trump s character. cohen says that in speaking to trump about the crowd at one of his campaign rallies, quote, i told trump that the rally looked vanilla on television. trump said that s because black people are too stupid to vote for me. on another occasion said trump said to me, name one country run by a black person that is not run by an s-hole and then name one city. speaking of african american contestants on the apprentice, cohen says that trump said there is no way i d let this black expletive win. in other words, it s rigged. a source inside the trump administration told nbc news cohen s allegations were moralized from a serial liar. okay, fine. heidi, you re the straight
caucasian. he offered this observe tigs his boss. i said the rally looked vanilla on television. and he said that s because black people are too stupid to vote for me. emily? as you can imagine, hearing these things one after another my jaw drops to the floor. i think these are sentiments that i don t think anyone is truly surprised that the president has uttered. but it should be a surprising thing that the president of the united states has uttered these things in private. and you go through the piece and there are three more examples just like that. let me bring those yeah, sure. so trump said to me name one country run by a black person that s not a bleep hole. and then he added name one city. cohen recalled a statement that echoed the president s alleged comments about african nations earlier this year. i think you were here that day, right? yes. cohen also recounted a conversation with trump in the late 2000s while traveling to