it is important to stand up for workers right. what do you make of president obama coming to your state and clearly disagreed with what you said? this is the president a couple of days ago. the so-called right-to-work laws do not have to do with economics by have to do with politics. they are really talking about giving you the right-to-work for less money. neil: what do you think of that? guest: well, two things. the last comment about working for less money is about collective bargaining, and that is not the issue. the second piece, in terms of looking at the worker side, this is pro worker, stepping up not about politics but stepping up to say, isn t it only fair that workers should only have to put up their hard earned dollars to something they see value for and if the value doesn t exist, they shouldn t is to contribute. again, that burden should really be on the union side to put together a value proposition that is exciting, worthwhile, and hopefully they can convince