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next couple of years through all of the good opportunities that emerges to keep pushing forward. we know the president trusts them very much. previous people who filled in that position as chief of staff, they didn t actually in some cases didn t get along with ivanka and jared. i m curious to get your thoughts in terms of how much jared and ivanka play in the search. how much say do they have? could they themselves actually be one of the reasons why people, potential candidates, don t want to take this job? certainly having family members serving on the staff in the white house in that mixed role has been problematic for other staffers these people two years. that s true. jared and ivanka both played a big role in helping influence the decision to remove kelly. they were seen internally as big advocates for nick ayers to take the job. al tho although nick ayers turned down the president for that role. so i think at this point, they re trying to see who the president is going to be