i think he d be disgusted with some of the stuff that s going on. i really do. i think what he d be saying is that he d be rail against what s going on, and i think john provided a lot of cover for other members, and when he would do it then they could get behind him kind of thing and i m not seeing a real rudder in the senate right now in all this. why do you think that is? it seems like there s this sort of reign of terror about taking on the president, criticizing him. yeah. i think it has to do with re-elections and and keeping our heads down. i m not being critical because i understand what it means to get re-elected, but at some point you have to you have to do what you were elected to do and that is represent the country as well as your local people, but i think john would be i know he d be terribly upset about this whole thing. he was upset before he died when he saw what was going on.
dignity. when you read the story about the president s decision overnight to withdraw from syria and essentially leave the kurds to themselves, that must have been one of those i can only imagine what john would have said about that. i know. john was a huge fighter for the kurds and they d spent time up there, and they d spent time up there during fighting. i know he d be very upset. i was, too, and i was just upset that we would leave some people behind. i m not a war expert. i m not a military person, but i understand what helping the little guy means. i don t think many people understand that when the americans arrive, a lot of countries view this as, my god, they re here. we re going to be okay, and so to break your word with anybody, no matter how large or small, that affects the entire country, not just the one that we re trying to help, but our country. it s important.
swinging down and down and down and i knew by the end of that that i was in big trouble. you were dealing with not just physical pain on. yeah.emotional pain of what was going on. it s very hard to describe something that s been through something like that understands it, but for me it was just you know, i found out a great deal about myself obviously. i had a weakness and more importantly, though, i m in recovery. i ve been in recovery now for 30-some years, and it made me a better parent to understand that there will be problems. you have to look closer at the problems because i hid it really well from john. yes. i hid it from him. it went on for a couple of years. yeah. it was all about. honestly it was pressure that i put on myself and it was becoming being the perfect wife. when he got home i wanted to be
is to look out for the institute. you ve known joe biden for as long as you knew john mccain. he was the first u.s. senator i ever met. he was there that night. it was jill biden that said why don t you go over and talk to them? that s very true. he wrote in his last, wonderful book, the restless way, joe and i have argued a lot over the years and it s a first-class human being and it s a lucky thing to be his friend. how did you react when the president has torn after him, called him corrupt, called his son corrupt? well, he s my friend. i mean, i react i had the same reaction that any friend would have. i was very disappoint individual of this. again, john always worked across the aisle. he did that in both friendship and in his service and there s no reason, in my opinion, to disparage anyone that s
decision i ll make at the time. i want to talk to you about the two presidential races that you were involved in. i remember the 2000 campaign, and john mccain got to run as the maverick. right. that he is. yeah. he was challenging, conventional thinking of both parties. yeah. he seemed to have a ball and he was on the straight talk express. you were on the bus, as well. yeah. and it seemed like a lot of fun. it was. senator mccain won this spectacular victory in the new hampshire primary by 17 points over george w. bush who was the sort of presumed front-runner. the race then turned to south carolina and it became really, really nasty. you adopted a taughtdaughter fr bangladesh. yes. a beautiful daughter. thousands of calls saying that john mccain has a black child and i know you were