desire to retake the white house, and a willingness to sacrifice national interests to get there. americans memories have seemingly gotten shorter and shorter. but if we are to avoid future disaster, we cannot forget the event, the facts, of july of 2019. and former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance joins us right now. joyce, great to see you, we just read obviously a little bit from your piece there, and you make the case that americans can t forget trump s first impeachment and we need to connect it to the war we re seeing currently unfold in ukraine. tell us a lilt bit more about why that a little bit more why about why that investigation is so important right now. you know, i wrote the piece, jonathan, because our memories really are short. which isn t a discredit to us. it s just that we ve been bombarded by so much news over the last five or six years, and
refuse, effectively ending trump s legal options? joining me now, barbara mcquade and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and a professor at the university of alabama law school. they were both msnbc legal contributors and co-hosts of the poddet podcast #sistersinlaw. great to see you both. barbara, i m going to start with you. will the supreme court even take up the appeal case by the trump legal team? i think it s very unlikely, jonathan. i think that the decision that the court of appeals made, which affirmed the trial court in this case, really got it right and had a very lengthy and well-reasoned opinion. and essentially what they said
actions. ryan reilly, thank you. thanks so much. joining us now are barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney in michigan and a law professor at the university of michigan law school. and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and a professor at the university of alabama school of law. they are both msnbc legal contributors. barbara, i hear these judges, and it s hard to understand how nobody who assembled the attackers on january 6th has been charged with a crime. yes, jonathan. i think that is something that is disturbing to everybody. and i would add the word after your sentence, yet. i don t know this is the end of the road to investigate something of the magnitude of what we re seeing from the january 6th committee with plots and e-mails and power points and other things like that would take many, many months to investigate.
capitol and was carrying around a member-only sign and was sentenced to a month behind bars today, i mean her life has been pretty torn apart by this event. she was a senior about to gradwrite, and she went back, her parents are mad at her. she broke down. i mean that was legitimate remorse. it seemed compelling. she talked about how her life was torn apart. there are those similar to her charged with minor offenses that i think they re victims still. they really don t seem to be legitimately sorry for their actions. ryan reilly, thank you. thanks so much. joining us now are barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney in michigan and a law professor at the university of michigan law school. and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and a professor at the university of
it was packed. it feels like old times, i have to say. you walk out around the holidays, it was strange for all the obvious reasons. you walk out of this building and, bam, it is wall to wall on the sidewalks and that s a good thing for new york city. a lot of tourists coming out. it was very exciting. one of them, of course, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and an msnbc legal analyst who is here for girls week. not girls weekend, girls week. on the weekend joyce vance has to be back home to watch the crimson tide, s.e.c. championship game. how about that iron bowl? that was 59 frustrating minutes, wasn t it? did you not have confidence the whole time that coach saban would pull that out? of course i did. i turned to my son and i said, now this and mika was there. it was really rough. i was supposed to pick her up