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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220227 09:03:00

prague, a woman who said that she was prepared for a fight in ukraine. if somebody give me a weapon, i will fight. i am not afraid! i can shoot! i will shoot all the russian soldiers. and other people who want bad for us. that for ukraine. that for my family. what i can shoot. i am not afraid. i want to fight! remarkable scenes there. and thousands of protesters took to the streets of melbourne today, to protest against russia s invasions. you see there, carrying ukrainian flags. showing their support for the country. and right now we are following developments overseas and here at home. we have a team of correspondents standing by with the latest. let s go to nbc news foreign correspondent in moscow. ralph, so the government says

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220227 09:09:00

protesters who are very adamant that they want to see nato, which is braced right here in brussels, impose a nose fly zone over ukraine. chris? josh for us. thank you for that. now i want to talk about the dramatic overnight military developments. so let s bring in the korean naval officer with experience in counter-terrorism and national security. we spoke last week, you are in ukraine at the time. you would spend weeks there. you had driven around the country. you have a profound and very recent understanding of not just the geography, but the motivation on both sides. talk about where we are right now as you see the fight. the fight is still in the beginning phases. and i think the people should not believe that you we are going to see a rapid collapse of the ukraine, or the ukrainian army, anytime soon. no matter what the russians throughout them. you had on in the last hour, and he had

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220227 09:12:00

this woman who says i want to fight! i m not afraid to fight! i will shoot! so you have ukrainian forces, you also have ukrainian citizens who are willing to go on the attack. but even if they are able to expand how long row difficult it is for russia to invade, or to take control. what does that mean in the big picture? i just in other words delaying the inevitable. you know, what s the old saying. it s not about the size of the dog. it s about the size of the fight in the dog. i agree. in the army, and i can tell you the commander of the donbas was asked this question about three weeks ago. what do you gonna do if the russians invade from the north? invade from the south? and his was not particularly eloquent but it was brutally honest. he said, i don t care where they attack from! i m in a fight! this country has got a lot of fighting them.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220227 09:18:00

that you see hitting the city at night. or airstrikes, or cruise missiles. well, those are unnerving. it s the expectation of having to be in a major urban fight. that these people are a little fever of. because this is not what they were doing a week ago. i was go to lunch with a family of five. having pizza week ago, and watching kids go on school trips. and now, they are in a fight literally, for their lives. but the men in the women there? i am telling you. they are fierce! i didn t even realize until this attack started. they are not joking about everyone shoot out the windows, or throw molotov cocktails. yes, the russians can bring in heavy armored force. yes, they can bring in infantry and occupy. but again, they have to pull a four hour or two hour shift and then get out of there alive. and i don t think many of them

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220227 09:15:00

to enforce an advantage. cumulatively, what is all that mean? i am one of the few analysts, maybe because like i said, i spent a month there studying the russian forces the invasion routes. with the ukrainian army, as commanders. who are in the fight. and just with the ukrainian people. i am one of the few analysts that think that they can beat the russians. i really do think that. yeah, i do. because this! what is that look like malcolm? what does it look like? it would look like people are evaluating that if russian tanks come into kyiv, that that is a victory. it is not! anyone who is any ben in an army carrier in a foreign city, with the foreign powers blowing you up daily with ieds. it does not mean victory, it means occupation. it surviving that occupation

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