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can they peel votes away from trump? i m not so sure if there s a bunch of them. can appeal votes away from desantis. maybe, but at the end of the day, i think donald trump right now is saying the more the merrier. if a bunch of people get in, i think his chances go up because that 20% of the republican party, there s gonna be loyal to him in a cultish way, they are not going anywhere alex. why is mike pence running? mike pence is out there trying to position himself as a culture war warrior especially on the topic of abortion, but i feel that ron desantis is winning out in the culture wars each and every time. he s already persona non grata with the trump base. what s the point of someone like mike pence even running at this point? i think there s an unwritten law that if you ve been vice president you re required to run for president. [laughter] i don t get it there s a life of self awareness there. i don t think he hasn t warm