in the wake of this killing of these killings, former new york governor george pataki cited eric holder as partly to blame. taking to twitter saying it was part of divisive anti-cop. holder called the shootings senseless and an unspeakable act of barbarism. a week ago he sat for an interview with joy reid. in the first part he spoke about local police and african-americans. in this portion of the interview today with joy, he speaks about race on america as well as his own accomplishments in office. you talked about the fact you ve been forthright in a lot of ways talking about race. that s true. a lot of people believe that of you. your critics on the right might say, he came out swinging. saying we re a nation of cowards on race, talking about things in a very blunt way when it came to race. so, it s not surprising the other side swung back.