apprentice. walk us through your reporting. thank you. when we saw that these call records laid out in the house report this week, we really many of us looked at those and said, wow, that s an entire web of communications that appear to be on unsecure lines, plugging directly into the white house switchboard on regular intervals through rudy giuliani and we wanted to try to understand what was happening. and i think the story has a lot of other revelations in it as well including new details about efforts by trump s own chief of staff in recent years to try to reign in his habits and most of those have failed. the clip that you played at the outset here, trump takes far greater risks in terms of security of communications than any president we ve ever encountered. rudy giuliani is in the ukraine or in ukraine right now or maybe he s on his way
secret service i had my own telephone conversations recorded by a foreign entity. the way that i knew this was that counterparts at the u.s. embassy in buddha pest came to me and said, just advising you again that conversations are always being monitored by foreign intelligence. we knew that going in. we maintained operational security and communication security protocols. we knew never to talk about sensitive things on unsecure lines. listen, i knew that and i m not the ambassador to the e.u. sondland should have known better and taken better protocols to, you know, protect that conversation. i presume that he would have had some sort of lesson about all of this, wouldn t he? absolutely. i mean, the any member of the foreign service, it s it s basic information. you are a target of foreign intelligence. they would have gone through different types of security briefings, both in the united states and by the state
of the signal themes of the presidency as sort of a counterintelligence nightmare. you have the president of the united states, first of all, making cell phone calls, unsecure lines, and a capital that s right next to russia. that s obviously an intelligence nightmare. then you have the question of foreign officials trying to understand first of all who speaks for the united states, and the from the beginning of the presidency, it s been clear that president trump undermines his officials, even those he himself has appointed. he said in the past, i am the only one who matters. well, this scandal tends to reinforce that, right? it shows there s no one he s not willing to undercut. so you better find a way directly to him. but then secondly, it appears that he s easily prey to what marie yovanovitch called a foreign disinformation campaign. donald trump, to put it bluntly, was sort of an easy mark here. you know, people spread false information to him.
he s been pumped full of brain poison and he has a gun. millions of americans, fellow citizens consuming brain poison every day. it s going into the bloodstream of the president of the united states. the worst conspiracy theories, alex jones, the president said was a great guy. rush limbaugh today. that s what s upsetting. the man who is tasked with leading the country, he gets the worst kind of information in the world. well, look, there s another story today, it would seem unrelated that the president is speaking on unsecure lines. the staff isn t concerned. he s getting his information from the dumbest, worst sources in america. they don t care because he doesn t know anything, he s a low information voter in the white house. on top of that, it s not just that there s this right wing swamp, the intimacy of facebook and twitter and the ability of everyone to touch everyone else makes everyone feel so close to the news and so connected to the politics of this moment that
believes there are child slaves inside this building. he s been pumped full of brain poison and he has a gun. millions of americans, fellow citizens consuming brain poison every day. it s going into the bloodstream of the president of the united states. the worst conspiracy theories, alex jones, the president said was a great guy. rush limbaugh today. that s what s upsetting. the man who is tasked with leading the country, he gets the worst kind of information in the world. well, look, there s another story today, it would seem unrelated that the president is speaking on unsecure lines. the staff isn t concerned. he s getting his information from the dumbest, worst sources in america. they don t care because he doesn t know anything, he s a low information voter in the white house. on top of that, it s not just that there s this right wing swamp, the intimacy of facebook and twitter and the ability of everyone to touch everyone else makes everyone feel so close to the news and so