the fact that trump can be elected in america as the president, oh, that is a certain credibility then for this far right movement and that is the reason why the pro european movement has to fix its agenda and has to go forward with the real vision about europe and that vision is, in fact, the united states of europe that is my book. i compare all the time what happen in america and what dn t happen in europe. and the reason, for example, we are completely depending from the u.s., for example, on defense issues is because we didn t create a united states of europe. united europe. nick? i m curious. for europeans who know american politics is kind of miystifying. trump is seeing a european political thing happening in the u.s., the kind of nationalism and populism. is it the view of folks in europe that they are finally seeing something they can recognize in american politics that is similar to what is happening in europe?
unprecedented. no one knows quite how the dominos will fall once that starts happening. there s the immediate questions of greek debt and who gets paid and who doesn t and you can bet that there will wrangling over that. the issue is does this start to undercut the european economy to the extent that other countries start becoming riskier and that lenders don t want to lend in italy or in spain. what does it do to the value of the ureeuro overall and the legitimacy of the experiment where countries will come together and form a new bloc and be a united states of europe that really hasn t happened. if there were to be a bigger breakup, that s a major geopolitical event. do you see other countries whose economies may be fragile following suit potentially? absolutely.
in local elections in the past year. do you expect them to do pretty well here? reporter: and i don t think they are going to win a huge number of seats. what they will do is probably take a lot of votes from the center right conservative party, the nearest would be the republicans i guess you could say and that would stop conservatives getting that victory. britain, who always had this really uneasy relationship with the european union, we like going on a holiday but don t juan to be governed by europe. there s a united states of europe being built not so much the united states of america and british people say no we re different. we don t want to be part of that. we re not part of your single currency, we don t accept the euro, there s a strong feeling in britain they don t want to go that path. that s why the uk independence party standing on a policy of saying we need to get out of the
an unreal world when it comes to international affairs. he lives in a world of rhetoric and talk. he does not live in the real world of power. and what is going on in the ukraine today is a struggle for power. not just between those who want to move ukraine to the west and those who want to keep it tied to russia, but between vladmir putin s essentially hegemonic aspirations in the territory of the former soviet union and a question whether the west will allow him to get away with it here in a very consequential country. ukraine has almost 50 million people t would be a major economy if it were in western europe. what putin succeeds in doing in ukraine will be a pattern what he does in the rest of the former soviet union. then as he expands outside. other countries are watching inability or unwillingness of the united states of europe to do anything about this. you can bet in beijing they re paying very close thanks to it. they re breaking out the orange juice in tehran for what this m
independent party, good to have you. who were you addressing, unelected, at yet not sworn in statement. guest: that dull man i was talking to with the glasses was not happy. he had just been appointed, and i repeat, appointed the president of europe, the president of 500 million people and non-descript bureaucrat. neil: he looks like a professor corwy and your point was what? guest: my point was, i don t want to live in the united states of europe because i think the europe has different countries, different languages, different histories, but if you were going to build the united states of europe, surely you wouldn t turn the clock back a thousand years and abolish democracy and finish up with a president that had been appointed and who cannot be removed. that was my basic point. neil: you got penalized. guest: i was fined. the european parliament fined me