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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:04:18:00

areas, which were then taken back to the united states for micro chemical analyses. the result was these features are, in fact, blood. with no explanation for how the image was made, and the apparent presence of blood on the cloth, jackson looked to the gospels to see whether there was a connection between the last day of jesus life and the shroud. according to the gospel of john, then pilate took jesus and had him flogged. what i think stands out the most are the many marks that are all over the cloth. to me, this looks like blood residues of a person who was whipped or scourged.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:04:59:00

now. clearly it would have been an important artifact for the disciples and early christians so the notion that it would have been preserved makes total sense to me. my gut tells me that it s real. it doesn t seem likely to me that it s real but it focuses on our attention of something unavoidable about the jesus story which is how much he suffers. jesus maybe glorious and enthroned in heaven, lord of lord and king of kings but this moment of suffering and pain is actually his most human moment. for many, the shroud is also a reminder of a man trying to do the right thing. i think a part of joseph s story is our story. even though he didn t understand the outcome.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:08:55:00

anyone who would choose to write a gospel of judas was certainly making a conscious decision to pick a figure whom wasn t accepted by the orthodox church. the judas character in the gospel of judas is not a great deal different from judas as we see him on the pages of the new testament. judas has always been a complicated character. ambiguity around judas and the fascination has always been there. there s no way that the gospel writers would have made up a character in jesus inner circle who would have betrayed jesus. he s not just kind of a mythical person. judas, obviously, is someone who is going through a lot of conflict. he s a real person with real emotions. he s a person who had great hopes in jesus. those hopes were dashed.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:08:39:00

master! the biggest problem i think in the original translation was this line here. so in the coptic here, jesus calls judas the 13th dimon. and dimon was translated in the original translation as the word spirit. why do you try so hard? but in fact, this word means demon. this single word changes the whole interpretation. i have seen a great vision. you 13th demon. so the judas that i saw when i did my own reconstructive work, he s not a hero. judas is a fallen angel. he s a demon.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:05:27:00

these words and we don t know where he kissed mary. of all places for there to be a hole, it s there. what did it say? jesus kissed her often on the lips? or is it something rather less racy? rather less potentially sealized? is it kissed her often on the forehead or kissed her often on the feet. so if you happen to be a fan of dan brown davinci code and you re reading that there s a theme where they pull from the gospel of phillip. jesus used to kiss her often on the mouth or the lips. this is the passage that he s referring to here but when we actually see the manuscript it s just not that clear. even in the gospels there s no reliable evidence of a romantic relationship between mary and jesus but these

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