playing with fire and the reason i bring it up, two things that caused problems for the plan and where the icing on the cake were the cornhusker deal in nebraska which made a lot of these deals smack of back room deals that gave some states advantages and other state wouldn t get and the union deal, unions showed up at the white house and got exempt from paying the cadillac tax. are those things going to be gone? yes. i think it is very clear that the nebraska deal should go. that wasn t in the how about and we sure as heck don t martha: it seems to be clear and what about this union deal? the union deal isn t quite what you said the excise tax was changed for everybody, there was just a phase-in for collectively bargained plans and i ll say this to you. i don t think there should be an excise tax at all and my view is taxation of benefits doesn t make a lot of sense. martha: you want no cadillac tax program for everybody across the board, and will that happen.