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that ends up happening? i don t believe that the republicans shut down the government, even on crossfire earlier, newt was talking about harry reid and the president threatening to shut down the government over the sequester. that came out of the white house in july. july was when that first came out. obama care is a job killing program that we can t afford. we re $17 trillion in debt and now they re going to kick the can down the road and they re not going to do anything about it. it is not acceptable. and we cannot continue to function this way. amy, god bless you, didn t answer the question. this isn t a win. this shutdown wasn t about adjusting the reinsurance rate. and the shutdown was compelled by house republicans listening to the tea party, afraid of getting primaried from the right. they realized it was suicidal from the get go. so the result will be good for the country if we avoid this completely idiotic,
and now the unions are going to be fixed? this is not right. we have a $17 trillion debt. it s not acceptable. we cannot continue to live this way. and we want something done about it. and when obama care is one sixth of our economy, another huge entitlement program. i mean, when are we going to address that. health care is 20% of the economy. i think we can all agree as amy said, we need to deal with the deficit and the debt in particular. but the point is that this whole kamikaze kabuki has increased costs. it has not helped deal with the deficit and debt. if we re serious about that, that s when you go to conference and get people talking for long-term plans. but everything we ve been through has done nothing to deal with the debt in a constructive way. it s been kind of a fool s error politically, but the deficit has been cut in half since president obama s taken office.
john boehner s going to have this problem all over again if their deal gets to the house tomorrow or wednesday, and that s going to be, you know, it s going to feel like groundhog day if we just keep going with the feelings of amy s constituency. would you think that the house, if they have the votes would shoot this down right on the eve of a technical default? you know, without getting into all the details and the arguments of when s a default a default? would they really do that? i don t know. but i know that the members in the house are representing their constituents, and i think all of us would agree here that our government cannot keep functioning this way. and what, we re going to be back here in three or four months doing this all over again? we re tired of this. and if what we heard earlier is accurate, the republicans are going to get the income verification. that was a standard in obama care anyway. so now we re going to get a fraud prevention piece thrown at us.
hopefully if we can get that done, if the appropriators do what they re supposed to do, we can get back to a process that actually works again. we ve tried super committees. we ve tried bowles simpson. it hasn t worked. that s another process piece that i think, would argue that we re headed in the right direction by actually working within the framework of the united states congress to work these conflicts. thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time. by the way, the president was supposed to have a meeting today, but it didn t happen. was that an ominous sign? still to come, that terrorist in new york. he s here in new york city. is it too soon? is it safe? plus patient dumping.