by less than it comes down to about 20,000 votes. and i think this debate tonight was a great debate. every one of these folks are better than joe biden. unfortunately, i also think and it is a little harsh to say, and i didn t want it this way. i wanted donald trump to be here. but i think he probably made the right decision after seeing tonight because tonight sean: why do you say that? reince: because i think it looked like a an undercard debate and i think that not having the prizefighter i think not having donald trump on that stage took down the temperature a little bit and made it a little us, i think, attractive. and i think that he probably made the right decision. sean: the other candidates, let s be honest, this guy is sucking up 95% of the oxygen of the entire campaign. they should have been happy that this was a moment for them to get their opinions across and
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had built up in tallahassee for himself where he was cac cooped, not just from regular people but from the media as well. he wasn t doing any normal interviews for years. now he doesn t have that type of protection, as a consequence his numbers are sliding, sliding, sliding. what we re going to see, i believe, because no one in the republican field is searching, is the potential for other candidates to get in. it s certain that glenn youngkin is looking at this again, and i don t think we should count him out. he seems to think other candidates will get into the democratic race as well. let s take a listen to what he actually had to say about governor gavin newsom. you said yes to debating governor gavin newsom. you re debating someone who isn t even in the race. some are saying this is more like an undercard debate for 2028. why are you doing this? a couple things. i think debates between florida
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or so and some with their closest friends and advisers in tow. i m coming to you from the proverbial spin room as the candidates put their finishing touches on the game plan in the critical night on the 2020 race. there s no night two, and no undercard debate and no second stage. it s true. we ll probably never see this again in this election. it s likely that, you know, up to three of these people that you see out of 12 dozen democrats up there they may not make the next round, but the big story will be center stage. joe biden and elizabeth warren. sure, they ll be flanked by other candidates and this may be the last chance to make an impact, but when you watch those two, there can only be one number one. so how are they going to deal with attacks on them? whom will they target and how? and of course, there aris a lotf news and we have a formal impeachment inquiry and his personal attorney is under crimin criminal investigation with the rough transcript of a call between the preside
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whether or not that s joe biden? it s a question democratic voters are ultimately going to answer. joining me to talk about that question much more, msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, columnist with the daily beast, msnbc analyst michelle goldberg new york times and danielle moomoodie-mills. what did you think, michelle? this isn t a new observation, but we were ill served by having these two parallel debates. totally, i appreciate that the dnc is not ruthlessly hierarchical the way the rnc so they didn t want to do the overcard/undercard debate. you had this very weird situation where it was idealogically polarized. you had byrne and elizabeth warren and a bunch of these sort of ringer moderates, right, who were standing in for joe biden. and then you had the reverse the next night where you had biden, warren, booker and then bill de blasio over there basically trying and kind of failing to channel what bernie sanders might say.
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