skin. that s why you would, quite frankly. there s altruism to that but normally because you re self-interested. doesn t mean you re not credible or not telling truth but certainly self-interested. what happened with michael cohen, the judge alluding to the notion that, you know, the fact that you ve pled guilty and later cooperating is not going to be a retroactive leniency. you did it now but at the time, you did the wrong thing and he was not a full cooperator in the sense of, i ll tell you everything about uncharged criminal conduct. i will confirm that you have it right in respect to what you already know and if you want to tell the prosecutor, what they ve charged as well. what did you think about what today and just what recent filings that we ve seen pertaining to michael cohen signals to other people who may be targets of the mueller investigation or are thinking perhaps of cooperating? i think that s a critically important point.
we ll get to that in one second. i want to close the book on what happened here with cohen. there was this merger here and in the southern district of new york their own investigation. you had mueller s office telling this court we think he cooperated. is he in order there. then you have them in new york sending a different message in their filings last week. they said cohen declined to debriefed on other uncharged criminal conduct. he declined to meet with the office about other area of investigative interest. if he had cooperated rgs it could have been fruitful. it was his unwillingness to provide information at some later, unspecified time is of limited value to this office. the southern district of new