the degree that the phone logs make that happen, i think that there is a political sort of broad popular preliminary value in having them out there. and frank, to pick up on garrett s point, if this were any other white house and these four pages are phone logs came out with an indicted individual, lev parnas, with victoria tensing who is under scrutiny for representing a ukranian oligarch under investigation, and with tentacles into this corruption. and then unnamed calls to a white house numb, calls to an omb number which is differentiated on the white house switchboard. any other white house would be in crisis mode trying to explain what rudy giuliani was doing making dozens of dozens of calls deep inside the west wing around the issue of ukraine. well, you d have both sides of the aisle screaming for firings, for termination. screaming for answers.