well i was also on ukrainian tv, and i just want to say. i really appreciated by the way, the way you have ukrainians coming on your show tonight. and earlier tonight, these are people i know. i think the ukrainian voices need to be louder here in our country, so people can understand and listen to what they re doing. i really applaud that, i hope you do more of that. i was on tv today with ukrainian journalists broadcasting from the big television station, that big tower in the middle of kyiv, that was literally just bombed 24 hours ago, right next to . i can t remember the time zone, it s planning to me. so it s hard for me to worry about my security windows people are being brave to try to bring information in their country, the least i can do to participate in the discussion in ukraine. but especially in russia. because my ukrainians friends say, please, please, please
well i was also on ukrainian tv, and i really appreciate by the way i appreciate the way ukrainians are on your show tonight. these are people i know. i think the ukrainian voice in this debate needs to be louder here in our country. so people can understand, and listen to what they re doing. i really applaud that. i was on tv today with ukrainian journalists podcasting from the big television station. that big power in the middle of kyiv. that was literally just beyond, i think 24 hours ago. right next to bobby i can t remember. the time is all blending to me. so it s important to think about my security, when those people are being brave and trying to brave information in their country. the least i can do is to participate in the discussions in ukraine. but especially in russia. my ukrainian friends, they say please, please, please help us.
lieutenant colonel dmitry mikhailovich, what he said in interviews there which you may have seen on ukrainian tv. let s listen to this. he said russia will not be the winner here, and that russia might be able to take territory, but it will not be able to win over the people. what is your reaction to that? he is absolutely right. in my past weeks of reporting on this and reporting not only during the war, but in the run up to, it there has been actually over the last many
quadruple its military power that it throws at achieving its objectives at this country, and that would be very bad news for this city and elsewhere. all right. matthew chance reporting live from kyiv. thank you. the refugee, more than 500,000 have fled during the russian invasion so far. many others are traveling within ukraine just trying to get somewhere safe within the country. my next guest is a journalist with ukrainian tv. he evacuated with his wife and son on thursday. that s the day that putin officially announced the invasion on ukraine. thank you so much for being with us. can you start by telling us where you were when you first heard russia had invaded? yeah, actually, i was sleeping. i didn t hear any noise or
the invasion. now that war has come, no ukraine or russia can supply the world as they once did. further price rises and further supply chain disruption appeared inevitable. let s finish this hour by going to kyiv, where members of the city boss my orchestra how would an impromptu open air concert in the city boss mike independent squared today. here they are today in the freezing temperatures with a small crowd waving flags. the concert was broadcast on ukrainian tv. let s listen to a little of the ukrainian national anthem.