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Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20140720 14:08:00

this still, fareed, because the people in charge on the ground are the guys with the guns and they are the pro-russian separatists militants no no doubt about that whatsoever and they are permitting emergency workers to come in and do their work and try to recover these bodies. but ultimately who is truly in possession of them once they have been recovered and even those that have been removed to refrigerated railcars nearby, that is still an open question. we can t say for certain that they are in the possession of the ukrainian government yet. that cannot be said. we do know the bodies are being recovered. that in itself is some progress because it was only yesterday that so many of them were still out here beneath the ukrainian sun, so it is a step. it is some progress yet so too perhaps with the restriction of access to the various impact sites across this wide debris field, but not everywhere as we re seeing here at what can only be considered a fairly

Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140720 08:03:00

in terms of the bodies, progress there, as well, because those bodies that we saw here 24 hours ago in great numbers that had still been lying thunder ukrainian sun for something close to three days, they have at least now been collected. we ve seen significant change in that regard. the officials here say that they ve collected some 196 bodies. that s a big number, but it s still a long way short of the 298 victims. so a significant search effort is still going on. and to try and make progress in that area, they are bringing in volunteers to the local mines. local miners are coming here by the bus load and are being directed to fan out across the wheat fields, this farming territory in the search of those remaining bodies. so as i say, considerable in terms of control and in the search effort and in body recovery, but a long way short of what the international community would expect for an

Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room 20140718 21:09:00

the disaster, the scale of the debris, the number of bodies that are scattered across these fields in the towns across this area. it is very local. it is not yet a coordinated effort from kiev because while the rebels here are give some access, they are not providing open access to the central government in kiev. that is perhaps still being negotiated but it s going to happen soon because as those european observers who arrived here today mentioned, you can tell these bodies still out here are beginning to suffer from the effects of being exposed to the hot ukrainian sun. there is something of a clock ticking both in terms of dealing with the bodies that are scattered across this countryside and, of course, also getting to the bottom of this, the investigation establishing an exclusion zone coming in here collecting evidence to try and determine precisely for sure without any doubt whatsoever why this plane fell from the sky, wolf. so the ground around you,

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