innocent human beings? what can be said about soviet credibility when they is a flagrantly lie about such a heinous act? i can tell you, he was speaking for the american people back then who were absolutely furious at what the soviets had done. their cold-blooded killing of so many innocent people, their brutal destruction of so many human lives, their utter lack of compassion for the people aboard that plane. here s the way our president and we, the american people, felt. we know it will be hard to make a nation that rules its own people through force to cease using force against the rest of the world. but we must try. this is not a role we sought. we preach no manifest destiny. but like americans who began this country and brought forth this last best hope of mankind, history has asked much of the americans of our own time, much we have already given, much more we must be prepared to give. events like this today that no one forgets. especially not today.
location. then he said we warned them not to fly in our skies. that message was deleted from his profile. why say that if the voice recording showed the person who launched knew they made a mistake well before he made a claim of victory? actually there are two leaked conversations between separatists by the ukrainian security service ares. the second one establishes they were told. they said we watched on t that it was a ukrainian military plane. they got there and said, hang on, it says malaysian airliner. there was genuine confusion in the ranks of the separatists. they claimed victory over a military plane before realizing it was a passenger plane to kuala lumpur. then they tried to erase the evidence of claiming victory. the twitter account for the people s republic of donetsk, the separatist governmental or administrative system, they had a tweet showing buks. they said look at the new toy.
been the russian lee san said do we have the pilots. the idea is they may have shut down the ukrainian military plane. the suggestion is were there weapons on board and the conversation becomes no it s passenger, it s civilian. that points to the fact that it wasn t a military plane and they hit a passenger plane. i need to stress this. nbc news has not verified the authenticity. this is from the ukrainian government that released this. we had our people listen to the conversation. to me it harkens back to korea 007 in 1983 when the soviets then shot down a plane and denied it. it wasn t until u.s. intelligence released those recordings of the soviet pilots talking about what they had done that the world realized what the
course. michael crowley is the chief foreign affairs correspondent. the president has been saddens. he s talked of the tragedy. none of the judgmental way in terms of the guilty, it seems. your view? i think that s right, chris. the administration, the president being extremely cautious in their language. they don t want to get ahead of the investigation. of course vice president biden sort of made the strongest remarks in regards to what happened today saying it appeared the plane had been blown out of the sky. but the president, taking a much more measured response to what happened. saying that the investigation is what s important now. he spoke with the with president of ukraine poroshenko. offered u.s. assistance in the investigation. one interesting thing about the phone call is president obama stressed the need to keep the
satellites have been trained on the border. 24/7. it was in very short order they figured out that it was a s.a.m. missile that was launched, that eventually struck the plane. that was an infrared satellite that picked up this heat signature of the launch and the impact into the plane. but they are still wondering tonight was it separatists or russians? as you said, the president has said russia keeps supplying heavy weapons to the separatists in ukraine. that includes these buk missile systems as well as artillery and tanks. it s a reason why president obama slapped harder sanctions on the russians. but the feeling is whoever pulled the trigger separatists or russian it was most likely a russian weapon that did the damage. do we have reason to believe they would shoot down a