still for the kremlin is to de nazify ukraine. you know, we are hearing the same belligerent language again and again here. and i think it s really important to remember that the kremlin s aims in ukraine haven t changed. they don t want ukraine tojoin nato. while we ve seen there might be some agreement on that from the government in kyiv. they want those territories in eastern ukraine recognised as independent. or you could read that coming under russian control. they want crimea recognised as russian. and then there are vladimir putin s broader aims. he has consistently cast ukraine as a country and its government, nato and the west as the enemies of russia. and i think we have to bear that in mind when we look at what s happened today. the russia ukraine joining the russia ukrainejoining nato is very much a red line. but ukraine joined the european union is not. we know that has been a long standing goal for ukraine know that has been a long standing goalfor ukraine going back to k