vladimir putin is a strongman. i didn t say a man who is strong. that s not the same thing. he s a strongman. he requires this a tina, this mask this patina, this strength. what s going to happen as he continues to bomb apartment buildings. destroy ukrainian oil depots and the body bags start to mount up. what happens when he loses support at home? russians aren t even polling a majority in support for him trying to keep ukraine out of nato which wasn t even on the table. that s one thing about strongmen. they aren t democratically elected. they require this deception of strength that will be slowly cut off at the knees at 3 million really pissed off ukrainians start to snipe at these russians from apartment buildings in
wondering whether this is going to mean. they are seeing no more flights to egypt for vacation, and all of the things that they have come to take for granted because it s a 24 century society, and that is going away. but this is another part of russia that hasn t enjoyed the same prosperity. and putin s propaganda is pretty strong there. so i think it s going to take more than that. you write this in your book, putin did want to own ukraine but didn t want ukraine to be fully independent either. he long understood that ukraine not under russia s influence with seek closer so ca should with eu and he understood that neither eu or nato would have my interest in admitting dysfunctional and reform country let alone at war. the idea here is that there s a long play to keep ukraine out of nato and the eu because that is the existential threat from putin standpoint. and the idea that even, you know, the annexation of crimea, launching the war, the proxy war in the donbas is part of
to because that s the ultimate goal of putin is he said it multiple times at his press conference, that ukraine never existed it was creating in the beginning of a soviet era that they will erase ukraine out of the books. i would love to have a country for my kids to come back to. we re seeing a great deal from the people in ukraine including yourself. thank you for spending some time with us tonight. stay safe. thank you sergei. thank you, sir. still ahead on the reidout russian police arrest thousands of anti war protesters as putin s car turns their country into an international pariah. how russian disinformation mills are working over time spreading lies about the conflict across russia and across the world. and as we go to break, have a listen to a woman playing louis armstrong s what a wonderful world outside a train station
defend it and be kind of nice to have the russian system shut down russian aircraft move those systems in rapidly and defend point targets. that s what he is trying to do is shut down the resupply. there is an ability to do it. the s-300 has a slant range of 100 miles distance from washington to richmond virginia to contract and lock on 8 target simultaneously. easy system to operate. i have no idea why we are not pushing it always seems to be, jesse, we are one step behind on trying to help ukraine out. we keep talking about it but we are not doing anything about it. jesse: i can understand giving surface-to-air missiles to the ukrainians. it s a lot different than fighter jets. but i am hearing from our defense department. they said that missile strike against this camp for foreign fighters, close to poland, those missiles were fired from russian bombers in russian airspace. so how would a no-fly zone
martha: it could be a sign of a possible break-through in talks to end putin s war in ukraine. president zelensky that he realizes he doesn t have an open door to nato membership, keeping ukraine out of nato is one of putin s top demands. here s president zelensky in a video call with european leaders. he s on the monitor on the left, of course. we understand. we have heard about the open doors, but we already heard that we can enter those doors. this is truth. we have to accept it. martha: less bring in olga, ukraine s deputy prime minister for european topics.