with military assistance to maybe think of new, unprecedented ways we can be helping ukraine militarily, but also, also move with sanctions. of course, i totally agree that what has been mentioned, that current sanctions where only sort of part of the banking sector is covered, is totally inadequate. where buying oil and gas is totally inadequate. we have been advocating this, and the plight of these millions of ukrainians who have been driven from their homes, who are dying, who are being bombed while they re trying to escape by the people who do not provide humanitarian corridors i think this will change hearts and minds in europe quicker than we think. ambassador? i hope we will not wait for another thousand civilian victims to act, and this is the biggest mistake that the west was doing a number of times.
tremendous human suffering and that he needs to stop . for the good of humanity. so, vitaly the likely outcomes. well, that s the terrifying thing about it, because there doesn t seem to be an easy way out for president putin, out of this mess. and also, the more determined he is to take control of ukraine, the more counterproductive his efforts are. we ve been seeing an upsurge in pro ukrainian feeling in russian speaking parts of ukraine, for example. and almost two million people have fled ukraine, and where did they go? they didn t go to russia. they re fleeing westward. so that tells us that even though president putin insists that ukraine and russia are the same country, the same people, that s not what ukrainians think. so even if he succeeds in conquering ukraine militarily, will he be able to keep control of it, for how long?
that in the coming days, we see we see sort of much more readiness to move with military assistance to maybe think of new, unprecedented ways we can be helping ukraine militarily, but also, also move with sanctions. of course, i totally agree that what has been mentioned, that current sanctions where only sort of part of the banking sector is covered is totally inadequate. where buying oil and gas is totally inadequate. we have been advocating this and the plight of these millions of ukrainians who have been driven from their homes, who are dying, who are being bombed while they re trying to escape by the people who do not provide humanitarian corridors, i think this will change hearts and minds in europe quicker than we think. ambassador? i hope we will not wait for another thousand civilian victims to act, and this is the biggest mistake
you should ask our leaders what is the moral threshold when they will have an imperative to intervene? this is a real question. and, sadly, we are waiting for that while, in my view. we are sadly waiting for more people to die? i think that s what leaders are doing. can i ask you, deputy foreign minister, do you agree with that, that we have to see more ukrainian bodies pile up before nato has to act? the political will to act has been mobilising very quickly and i hope, and lithuania will do everything in its power that in the coming days, we see we see sort of much more readiness to move with military assistance to maybe think of new, unprecedented ways we can be helping ukraine militarily, but also, also move with sanctions. of course, i totally agree that what has been mentioned, that current sanctions
was unannounced immediately before, and we re happy to see it. and are meetings like this, they are showing that united front, isn t it, from nato allies against this russian invasion. what more do you want to see from other nato allies to support not only poland but ukraine? you are entirely right, that this is really first of all about ukraine. even this visit to poland is really a visit to ukraine in many ways. it is just because of the ongoing war that biden cannot go there. what else do we need to see? we need to support ukraine militarily, first of all. this meeting today between the ukrainian and american ministers can provide very much clear details, and when we hear from the ukrainian side, what we hear from the ukrainian side is first of all, a longer range missile defense, but also more of a