call and help to produce a rough transcript almost immediately after its conclusion. the secretary of state can listen in if he requests according to one former administration official. vice president mike pence will also frequently join mr. trump on a call with a foreign leader, often at the request of mr. trump according to an aide. back with us, annie karni and clint watts. annie, this is very interesting reporting. what you re putting together here is the picture of a phone call that really in the administration inside the white house is an event. all of these high-ranking people who are taking part or who are listening in or who are privy to it in some way. yet your reporting also suggests that the president himself doesn t typically prepare that much for these events. yeah. the process is not that different from what it has been under previous administrations. the national security council runs this process before every foreign leader call that the president does, they give him
not being familiar. nancy pelosi, one of her reservations to date was how stubborn those polls had been. if this is a preview of what s to happen, if the numbers stay war they ve been, does that affect how democrats react going forward? yeah, of course. jeremy said earlier this is different from any other impeachment before because the issues are different, and he s right about that. there are some parallels, one of which is that in 1998 when the republican house impeached democratic bill clinton, they did not have the public behind them. the numbers were like this. they didn t have a majority support. in fact, clinton s numbers were much higher than trump s are today. they were in the 60s and a few days after impeachment, they went up to 70, 73, i think. that s the difference. trump has never had that kind of support. i was in touch with newt gingrich tonight. he was the republican speaker back then. i m not surprised he would say this, but he says nancy pelosi risks having the same
that rudy giuliani went from a role as a surrogate in the campaign, speaker at the republican convention. there was talk, i remember, of him potentially being attorney general or secretary of state, to this role that apparently encompasses some far-reaching work when it came to ukraine. when you talk to rudy giuliani, the former new york mayor, and people close to president trump, you really understand these are two men who are general rational peers. they speak roughly to each other privately. they feel like they can be very candid about their political aims and agenda, their views of foreign policy. so in this tight inner circle of president trump, an outsider president, rudy giuliani is hovering there not only as a personal lawyer, but as someone who understands the president instinctively. so the president turns to him for project after project whether it s the russia probe or dealing with ukraine on foreign policy. it has alarmed national security officials who wonder why does
i think point number two is this is a much more severe and significant issue, and even the russian situation that was exposed last year relating to the 2016 campaign because in this case the president directly had a conversation with the foreign head of state, which wasn t exactly clear that it happened in the russian situation. and moreover, because he is president, he actually had things that the united states government has to offer in return for that political support, and that s apparently exactly what happened. we mentioned a minute ago the president s lawyer s name came up, rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani, of course, it was ai, few months ago he had brief scheduled a visit to ukraine. he said back at the time he would be there in the capacity as thehe president s lawyer, potentially getting information, he said, that might be useful to his client, the president, and to the country. rudy giuliani, there s some new reporting in the washington post tonight saying thatin he been e
upbeat musieverything was so fresh in the beginning. [sniff] dramatic music but that plug quickly faded. upbeat music luckily there s febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. [deep inhale] breathe happy with febreze plug. tonight our guest, annie karni of the new york times has new reporting on how these phone calls between the president and world leaders work. she writes, quote, while mr. trump is on a call, his national security adviser is typically either in the room with him or listening in from his west wing office. typically the adviser is joined by the senior director for the head of the state s region as well as intelligence officials working from the white house situation room who connect the