well is for the company to move forward, and is for and i think this is important, you know, many of the individuals, even if there is no if there is no evidence of wrongdoing, or anything like that, and i think that you know, and no evidence of impropriety, many individuals have chosen that it s time to part ways. i was not involved with the discussions with mr. chapman, i wasn t in there. you have no evidence of any complicity of mr. chapman to cover up the existence of the file that i do not have that. can you tell us the employment statement of daniel cloak. he left the company some time ago. i don t know his employment. he is not in the business. he was director of human resources for a number of years, not that many actually, i m not sure, but left over a year ago, i think, but i can follow-up with you the status. okay. i m just going very quickly to the witnesses who came to us. and, again, in respect to the
confidential settlements. i can follow-up as to whether think have been. it s customary for both parties to agree. there is nothing unusual about an ou out-of-court settlement bg made confidential and being agreed to being confidential. but it was. and with respect to i think the base of the question is the disparity in the amount of money involved? there was nothing in the taylor settlement with respect to confidentiality that spoke to the amount of money. the amount of money was derived, as i testified earlier, from a judgment made about what the likely damages would be, and what the likely expenses and litigations costs would have been had the company taken the litigation to its end and lost. you ve been great sure, that is your explanation, i put it to you an inference could be drawn if the larger settlements contained confidentiality and the smaller did not, despite
that his inconsistent with our code of conduct and neither has any place in any part of a company that i run. to say i m sorry is not enough. things must be put right. no excuses. police whose job it is to see that justice is done. it is our duty not to prejudice the outcome of the legal process. i m sure the committee will understand this. i wish we had managed to see and fully solve these problems much earlier. when two men were sent to prison in 2007, i thought this matter had been settled. the police ended their investigations and i was told that news international conducted an internal review. i am confident that when james later rejoined news corporation, he thought the case had closed too.
you to comment on whether or not you now accept that the statement is, saying that news of the world journalists have not accessed voice mails or indeed instructed investigators to do so is actually untrue? well, again, as you have heard, in the last few hours, the fact is that since, since miss sienna miller civil documents came into our possession the end of december, december 2010, that was the first time that we at the senior management of the company at the time had actually seen some documentary evidence. actually relating to a current employee. and i think that we acted quickly and decisively then when we had that information. as you know, it was our document, our evidence that opened up the police inquiry into 2011, in january. and since then we have
different company, or an editor, or managing editor, and decision-making has to be there. there are thresholds of materiality if you will, whereby things have to move upstream, so something has to be brought to the attention. from a financial threshold point of view i think we addressed that earlier with respect to the settlement, out-of-court settlement with mr. taylor. but also from the standpoint of things like alleged criminality, violations of our own code of conduct, things like that, those are things that are the company s internal audit function as well as the audit committee, as well as the senior executives of the committee are expected to be made aware of, as they were in the case of criminal prosecutions in 2007. you know, whatever efforts were made, whatever rulings there were, we reached news