Let him finish excuse me a minute. The president , of course, was known to be upset about the recusal in the first place. But look, this is on the front side of all the litany of things you heard about. At the same time, as i said, it went way beyond from the Attorney Generals perspective, way beyond wrong the recusal called for under the regulation thats just wrong. That is wrong. That is not the reading of the regulation. Read it. And the ethics rules for lawyers, rule 1. 7 for lawyers, conflicts of interest. He cannot investigate a campaign in which he was a material part of that campaign. He cannot do it under the ethics rules for lawyers or under the ethics regulations. Open and shut. He could not participate there are three types of investigations that investigation the department of justice. There are three types of ken, what are you saying . There are three types of investigations at the department of justice. Criminal and civil are what people think of most, of course. The fir
trying to put pressure on jim comey, former fbi director. he used all sorts of people he tried to have twist comey s arm to do what he wanted in terms of allegedly turning down the heat on michael flynn, former national security adviser. he had, for example, dan coates allegedly was asked to do something with comey, as well. we ve seen repeated instances in which donald trump has used multiple people to try and get what he wants. that s fundamentally what the question is here. yes, there s this broader question, broader criminal question of obstruction of justice. what we re seeing is a president who is used to getting his way, came from the private sector where he s a ceo and sort of, you know, active by edict, who comes into the presidency and tries to do the same sort of thing. i think that fundamentally is what these additional sources reveal. yes, once again, this isn t just him saying, hey, mcgann, go and talk to session, try and keep him from recusing. it is donald trump using e
we ve been talking about arm-twisting on jeff sessions recusing himself with the russia investigation. here with us tonight is our panel. jack, the actually, phil let s start with you. this new reporting that it wasn t just don mcgahn trying to basically arm twist or pressure jeff sessions, there were two other high-ranking senior white house officials involved with that, does that raise the stakes in this? i mean, it seems like everybody would have to have their stories all on the same page in any kind of interviews about it. right. i think what this does is it reinforces the way that donald trump was approaching control of jeff sessions, and more broadly control of his administration. we saw, for example, when he was trying to put pressure on jim comey, former fbi director. he used all sorts of people he tried to have twist comey s arm to do what he wanted in terms of allegedly turning down the heat on michael flynn, former national security adviser. he had, for example, dan coat