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after the horror that and looking for hope for survivors, perhaps a few, and then the rebuilding, and then the controversy over what you build and how you memorialize this event and you were fighting for the freedom tower itself. tell me a little about that. well, there were those who didn t want it. those who didn t want us to build tall because right, i remember that. and it was very controversial. neil: i remember they had a series of smaller buildings, right. smaller buildings and we didn t have the memorial that was absolutely essential, but we put together a tremendous master site plan and we fought every day to make sure that that happened. and i look behind us now and the memorial, i think, is one that inspires people and one of the things we wanted to do is people who weren t born on september 11th, who weren t born 20 years ago, kids could come here and understand the magnitude of the loss and the courage of the response, and yet, weem people could come and

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