i think the real issue more than anything else is ems workers are getting tired. the wages are not very good. they haven t been good for many many years, and so people are choosing different career paths to pursue, and they re leaving the ems field. ainsley: why aren t they making more money they are saving lives it s a longstanding problem with ems. the staffing shortage didn t begin just because of covid, its been building for a number of years and really its been the result of just in credibly inadequate funding from the pay er sources that are used to fund ems services across the country. payer services have just been historically low for ambulance services and that translates into very low pay, unfortunately , and so we typically have a fairly high turnover rate in this industry. ainsley: how is that affecting the 911 calls are you seeing delays? you know, we re not seeing delays in my market right now;
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as you said, under the best of circumstances this is an incredibly difficult, demanding job. now you layer on top of this an 18 month pandemic. and as i said, not only do we have a third of our patients with covid, we have extremely high volumes of critically ill, non-covid patients. our emergency departments are overwhelmed by their demand. i am concerned. i m concerned about the short term and long term implications on our health care workforce. the trauma that many have experienced watching 25-year-olds desperate to breathe in the icus, watching individuals pass away at a much younger age. this is going to be a long recovery. we have hospitals bringing in clergy, mental health resources. but we have seen a 25% turnover