steve schmidt, might that be the biggest turf grab that we see? well, lawrence, i don t often disagree with you on these questions of process and analysis. but certainly i think it s the case that it s not possible that general kelly could be any more ignorant of these things than reince priebus was. he had no idea how to build coalitions, how to deal with congress, that you have the interior secretary illegally threatening the senior senator from the state of alaska, and across the board on all sorts of different issues. i mean to your last segment on the show, we re going to know very quickly whether general kelly will have any effective control in the white house. and i do think that, you know, for partisans watching, general kelly is a great american, served his entire life in service to the country.
in effect, leave all the governing to me, the domestic governance in this white house. steve schmidt, might that be the biggest turf grab that we see? well, lawrence, i don t often disagree with you on these questions of process and analysis. but certainly i think it s the case that it s not possible that general kelly could be any more ignorant of these things than reince priebus was. he had no idea how to build coalitions, how to deal with congress, that you have the interior secretary illegally threatening the senior senator from the state of alaska, and across the board on all sorts of different issues. i mean to your last segment on the show, we re going to know very quickly whether general kelly will have any effective control in the white house. and i do think that, you know,
forum with nbc s pete williams last week. joining us now, charlie sykes, editor in chief of right wisconsin and an msnbc contributor, and joining us by phone, steve schmidt, republican strategist and an msnbc political analyst. i want to give you free rein to talk about this news, but let me tee this up. that is who i think may be the big turf winner in what s happened in the white house today, and that is vice president pence because we now have a white house chief of staff who does not know anything about the legislative process, does not know anything about the contents of tax legislation, about how to move a senator or a house member one way or another on budget bills, on any of this stuff. vice president pence now can step forward and say, leave all the legislating to me. in effect, leave all the governing to me, the domestic governance in this white house. steve schmidt, might that be the biggest turf grab that we see? well, lawrence, i don t often