type of activity from a preacher. ask you, shayne, if we could put those pictures up, seriously, how do you explain that? you say this is you know i m sending this to you because i want you to work on your spiritual muscle? i mean, how would one explain sending those pictures to someone? i m very curious to see how bishop long explains it. but i m surprised that he s going to do a press conference where he s going to take questions because don, your very question is what s going to be asked then he s going to have to come up with some crazy some kind of gymnastics to edgeiggy that foikt see where it s not damaging. i totally agree with marc. homosexuality is a sin. it s not unique in the black church and is that part of the problem not necessarily teaching that homosexuality a sin, that s number one the hypocrisy but also the acceptance of gays and lesbians in the black church. i read a newsweek article, marc, saying when are gays and
personal pricing now on brakes. tell us what you want to pay. we do our best to make that work. deal! my money. my choice. my meineke. we ve been discussing the sex scandal that has now engulfed bishop eddie long of new birth missionary baptist church in lath ownia georgia, outside of atlanta. i want to bring back our panel now columbia university professor marc lemont hill. tv host of our world with black enterprise. and tulane university professor shayne lee. and also ted haggart and now the pastor of the st. james church in colorado springs.
attraction but i think that overall point is the church is not the gether and the gether of the righteous penguins at we ve got to get over the fact that our leaders, sunday school teachers or anybody else, nobody is perfect. everybody s in process and i don t say that to justify or explain anything away. just as a lesson and reality that when we exult people and when we start thinking they re perfect, we re just in for a disappointment. and if it isn t this particular sin, it is another one, all have sinned. everyone needs redemption. that will have to be the last word. thank you, guy, so much. ted haggart. shayne lee, marc lemont hill. a very interesting conversation. a very smart conversation and no yelling and screaming, just how i like it. thank you so much, guys. thanks, don. thank you. have a great evening. pleasure. looking at some of your top stories coming up next and he s often called the holy sea but did the pope turn a blind eye to the sex abuse going on in the
especially african-american men don t want to talk about those things and don t want to admit them even if there s money involve thad may make money off of it. you re telling the truth, don. and the truth of the matter is most people don t lie when it comes to this type of thing and that s why it s so very important that the bishop speak out and pause and the delay that it s taking for him to speak out is really causing more making it even more troubling. yeah i think that you re all brave. kevin, thank you for joining us from london. thank you, guys, so much. i think that you re very brave and of course, you should stand behind your bishop but you should also have an open mind about this. we hope that these allegations are not true and as i said i ve been saying all week there are no winners in this situation. so best of luck to you tomorrow and come back tomorrow and talk to us about what you heard there in the congregation, okay? all right. thank you very much. black chu
lesbians in the black church going to be treated as equals or even allowed into the fold? right, i mean the fundamental question is will they be treated as human beings? while this is not unusual in the black church there are strands of black religious thought that are much more open and so much more understanding, those who follow the tradition of jesus and the love ethic is the primary thing that i will love all people and all neighbors as myself. other churches like eddie long s are not only antigay but adamant in their gay/lesbian campaign. which is odd to me coming from african-americans who have been discriminated against. i don t understand why people who ve been discriminated against will then turn around and discriminate against other people? they know how to feels. well, i think that there s a sense of shame and embarrassment in the black church and in the black community in general. i think a deep of shame around homosexuality and around sexual abuse and i think that s