intellectual and emotional investment that they needed any more. oh, that was back towards that was when i was getting towards my late 20s, heading towards my 30th birthday. yeah, and that was me demanding of myself that the level of investment i emotionally and intellectually wanted and needed to put into records, and i guess if fast forward 30 years, we d now be saying maybe i was kind of going, you know what? i need to take a break from this for a while, and to get away from it. i wonder about the music business, cos you worked in the record industry for a while, then you run uk music, which was the site of the big lobby group working on behalf of musicians and venues and all of that. do you think the music business and particularly musicians are in real trouble right now? the digital age does not seem to have worked out well for musicians. listen, listen, the simple truth of the matter is you cannot single out the music industry for that kind of accusation or scrutiny. i c