it may be an anomaly. i don t know. i know citizens in the city of baltimore are allowed to keep guns in their homes just like anybody else in this country. it s a constitutional right. but our police commissioner wants to do, kevin davis is to say if you wear, carry or transport a handgun, and you don t have a permit to do so, then you ought to be subject on the second offense to a felony. and be incarcerated for a certain length of time. he believes that the people who are carrying guns openly on the streets are the ones who are creating the violence. these are the people we want to get to. get off the streets and hopefully start dealing with some of the violence on the streets. tucker: so wherever i talk to politicians where the exception of you from baltimore they have been focused on national issues. we spoke to a city council man from baltimore a couple of months ago and he was all spun up about federal immigration policy and sanctuary cities and all this stuff. i asked him on
i m in favor i thought elmo was great on cnn so i m in favor of replacing jim acosto with elmo. the public is on the white house s side. if sean spicer wants to conduct his press conference in interpretive dance, he can do that and the public by and large if it s a choice between sean spicer announcing the obamacare bill in interpretive dance or jim acosta doing the drama queenry, people would rather have the dance of sean spicer. they are not going anywhere with this. tucker: i think the idea i m not in charge over there but the idea is you identify a relatively small, but consistent audience of true believers who were read in esoteric theory of the russian conspiracy or whatever you re selling. you go with that. you are not only a national
tourists like. you open the doll and there is a smaller doll. then you open up the last russian doll and there is nothing. at some point which i think the bulk of the american public have figured out already, there is actually nothing. we are down to the last minuscule russian doll and there is nothing inside when you open that up. tucker: so you think that that is a critique of cnn but i think cnn would call that hate speech. do you think it should be allowed? do you think you are making them feel unsafe by criticizing them? they actually are advancing the argument now that trump pushing back against the media, which nobody likes, nobody likes. i say this as someone in the media. and you re in the media. you know that. people hate the media. everybody hates the media. tucker: that s true. they hate jim acosta going bananas at the white house press conference because the big mean press secretary won t let him turn his camera on.
some of the counterproductive gun control measures, allowing people to defend themselves might be helpful. unfortunately, tucker, people are defending themselves with guns in baltimore. that is where the murders come from. rival gangs are arm and they are shooting at each other. not only hitting themselves but hitting innocent bystanders. there is a 3-year-old child killed in my district that was a very traumatic experience for all of us. sitting on her front steps. i m not so sure it s time to revisit the gun issue. tucker: that is kind of my point, though, is gang members don t care what laws you pass, of course, because by definition they are scoff laws. but normal people, law abiding people on the street don t want to break the law. now they can t defend themselves. so if the gun control measures in place work why did the murder rate go up after they were passed? well, i can t respond to that anomaly.
what is next phase for them? i think the trouble when you go down this thing, it s like we used to have these things long before television, 80 years ago when there would supposedly be a 5-year-old boy trapped in a well. and the media would come out around the camp out around the well to wait for the little boy to be rescued. that was dramatic. but if there is no little 7-year-old in the well, if there actually is nothing there, then all you have done in the long run i think is destroyed yourself. to go back to the malaysian jet thing. they actually are in this case, they are the do you remember on cnn when they thought the malaysian jet might have flown into a black hole? tucker: entirely possible. that is what they have done, they have taken a small story and in expanding it they are flying the network into a black hole. whether they can emerge from that, i realize that is the