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[ laughter ] rick: nice try fishing for that. gretchen: let s talk about let s get off the topic of the anchoring and get into the fiscal cliff which is not a great discussion if you re one of the people trying to solve it. senator barasso yesterday on some of the talk shows said maybe the president actually wants to go off the cliff. listen to this. i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. gretchen: you agree with that? i think there is a possibility of it. i know he d love to make some kind of deal. the whole thing and the whole charade going on in washington is politically irresponsible. what s going on is unbelievable. and that a deal can t be made with these people sitting around for years talking about it. we re not talking with over the last week. we re talk being for years they ve been talk being this subject. and they still can t make a deal. really what it shows is n

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