about poverty, kind of ways of talking about race without talking about race. so i think it s hard to imagine him capturing particularly white liberals or black voters with that kind of talk. but then you also think, okay, is he going to get the trumpist? he s not a trumpian candidate. who is tim scott for? that s interesting. i thought this response yesterday in the interview he did with nbc was interesting on abortion. this is a question every single republican candidate is going to be asked and that is, would you sign a federal abortion ban? what s your actual stance as president on this? here is what he said. i believe that life has intrinsic value because it comes from god. i have 100% pro life voting record. i m 100% pro life conservative. as president of the united states, i would sign the most conservative legislation pro life legislation that can get to my desk. it s in contrast to what nikki haley said last week,
that is where there is an opportunity for the administration to say, well, the slow burning prices here crisis here, is that it is a trumpist issue. if we don t want them to come, if we want to compete against china, we need to recognize there is a benefit, the people will literally risk their lives to still come to our country. so, creating orderly pathways, legal pathways, this allows for more people to come that route rather than the southern border, but also to recognize there are asylum seekers who are exercising their legal right, who are risking their lives, who are coming for the children to seek a better life, who need to have that opportunity to exercise it. krish, lindsay, as always, thank you both. 20, warning homeland security secretary alejandro americus we on the sunday show with jonathan capehart. they will talk about the situation at the border at the end of title 42, and what comes next. that is tomorrow, 9 am eastern, right here on msnbc. next for us, as presiden
protrump. is it really right wing used to be conservative. there s a difference between being conservative and being a trumpist. exactly. i never say conservative. they re not. there are differences in conservatism, and you can t say they re right wing because right wing usually denotes somebody who s pro military, pro law enforcement. and they re not. they hate the military. they always talked about how they d rather be russia. they hate law enforcement, if law enforcement was like the fbi or capitol hill cops, if they re getting in the way of their sort of radical anarchic behavior. they re not even a right wing. no, and also they just spent an entire thing in waco, texas, celebrating beating up cops on january 6th. they have. can you imagine if the left did this? they have the leading candidate for president, for the