didn t happen and yet somehow they want to dismiss this. well let s go to president trump zelinski, are you saying that he s lying, that somehow when we look at that that somehow president zelensky of ukraine is saying that he wasn t pressured, that somehow he s lying. well he didn t exactly say that. he he said it twice. and people testified people can google it. you re a good journalist but let s stick with the facts. we re cherry picking. but i want to i m not cherry picking. and you mentioned volker and you have respect for and he said he was executing u.s. policy that was widely understood at the time to be national policy. with the corruption. i think that is what he s referring to. i had seven hours with ambassador volker. and you can t just take one little sentence out of seven hours and suggest that everything that biden did was correct. he believes that biden was there
would be the attorney general of the united states, if you deal with the appropriate people, then serge having those coordinations on investigations would be appropriate. the president s personal lawyer rudy giuliani traveled overseas this week. he went to ukraine. right. and he s saying very openly that s trying to prove unfounded allegations against the bidens. president trump said yesterday that he even he wants ju giuliani to go to congress and talk about what he found. are you comfortable with rudy giuliani testifying? listen, when we look at rudy giuliani and what has been said about what he s done and what he s not done, i don t know everything that rudy giuliani has done. if he is finding something that is inappropriate, should he bring that to congress? yes. i assume that adam schiff and jerry nadler would want to hear that. if it was inappropriate. because they ve been talking about how they have this blindfold on as it relates to president trump. which i don t agre
not happen because the ukrainians did not know that the aide was being withheld. they thought things were going pretty well they got a visit from john bolton who s been the national security advisor. if they felt everything was actually on track and did not feel pressured by the president. martha: let me ask you about that, i brought that up with eric swalwell last night and since they got the last aid, they obviously knew that the agent wasn t coming through. what you say to that? you listened to him, it wasn t clear, i just president or everybody in the ukrainian government and as a matter fact martha: they said it writes? they learned about in an article in politico. in late august, remember the trump zelinski phone call was on july 25th and late august on the 28th on the 29th they read the