understand that the actions of a president mattered, words matter. where are those republicans today? one of them is sitting across from you. i have always been concerned about calling them as i see them. look, it s tribalism. it has always been that way. i remember when bill clinton got in trouble. the democrats all rallied behind him. the republicans were on the other side. even back in the days of the impeachment of nixon, which you and i read about and talked about. there s a case where the republicans, 28% had big approval of him, even when he was leaving office. it s normal to have tribalism. i like to think that at the end of the day, john, let the investigation be completed. hold your fire. you can have opinions and judgements. but at the end, you have to call them like you see them like an umpire. thanks so much. thanks. don t miss full circle on facebook where you vote on what
that some of what the president has been telling the public may not have been the whole truth. president is not under oath, and the president is trying to do the best he can to remember what happened back at a time when he was the busiest man in the world. i was with him most of the time, i can t remember a lot of the stuff that goes on there. but boy, same way i go under oath, then i really think about it and i really say, i can t remember that. i was wrong about who was with me on september 11th. i always thought the fire commissioner was with me in the building we were trapped in. turns out later, tommy told me i met you after. that happens when you re in the middle of difficult event sgs. one of the president s lawyers said the president did nothing wrong but if he did, it wasn t a crime. he said the president was trying to do business with russia far longer than he led us to believe. he said the president may have been lying to the american public but hey, it s not like he was
the west wing. so jeffrey, what do you make of what we have heard from rudy giuliani, this sort of mass inoculation all of a sudden that he s trying to provide the president, collusion is not a crime. if the president knew about wikileaks, that s not a crime. sure the president may have lied but he wasn t under oath. so that s not a crime. why are we hearing that from giuliani so much and now? because i think the evidence is pointing that way, and he needs to give talking points to his supporters at fox news and elsewhere. i mean, i do think there is more method to the madness than people are suggesting like this is just rudy being crazy. i mean, trump, the president s supporters need arguments. they may not be very good arguments, but he s supplying them. and i think just for example, one of them that i find completely maddening is the idea that, well, you know, donald trump was negotiating with russia for trump tower moscow during all of 2016, but everybody knew that anyway.
in capitalizing and exploiting the polarization and divisiveness in this country. second of course was to do all they could to damage hillary clinton s candidacy, and to help when he became serious as the nominee, help donald trump, but the first primary objective, sew doubt, discord and discontent, has continued and will continue to do so. this is how the russians can exploit our weaknesses and compensate for theirs. why would they continue to help donald trump, though, after the election? they already beat, or i should say hillary clinton already lost, so why bother now with the president? this is just an opportunity to drive a wedge among us. again, to sew doubt, discount and discontent about the advocacy of our institutions, about the rule of law, so a good way to do that is attack
this is why this thing is so weird, strange. weird to him, but perhaps central to robert mueller s investigation, and significant in that giuliani allows for the possibility of president through roger stone and wikileaks being party to or aware of some sort of coordination with russia. giuliani also let this slip about how much longer than we d known the pursuit of business with moscow went on in 2016. did donald trump know that michael cohen was pursuing the trump tower in moscow into the summer of 2016. according to the answer he gave, it would have covered all the way up to november of 2016. said he had conversations with him about it. the president didn t hide this. keeping him honest this, he did hide this, and cohen lied about it consistently during and after the campaign. we have been reporting for weeks that efforts to do deals in russia continued until at least the republican convention in july. but november, that s new. so was giuliani s implication